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Post by Admin on May 18, 2020 13:37:51 GMT
This adventure is going to create history and will be run like no other previous race aound the world. It WILL be a race of Attrition. It will be all about Planning, Preperation and Execution. It will be up to the Entants to get home once they cross the start line. There is NOTHING in the World like the Mini Globe Race..are you coming??
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Post by PeterM on May 20, 2020 7:58:22 GMT
1968/69: The 1st Golden Globe Race finish coincided with the first landing of man on the moon. 2024/25: The 1st Mini Globe Race will coincide with the NASA's return to the moon and establishing the 1st moon base. www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/Just coincidence |
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2020 13:17:25 GMT
WOW!!! I like that....COOL!!  ..and YES Ofcourse it was planned....hahaha err?  ? THANKS!!!! |
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Post by Daniel Mahon on Aug 25, 2020 19:46:53 GMT
Hi Don,
I'm following this closely, but don't want to leave my small kiddos for a year or so just yet. Obviously there's a long way to go to get to even the 2024 Mini Globe start line, let alone the finish line, let alone future years. But if all goes off as planned, is the idea to have a repeat every 4 years? This is an expression of interest for Mini Globe 2032....
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2020 13:04:03 GMT
Hi Don, I'm following this closely, but don't want to leave my small kiddos for a year or so just yet. Obviously there's a long way to go to get to even the 2024 Mini Globe start line, let alone the finish line, let alone future years. But if all goes off as planned, is the idea to have a repeat every 4 years? This is an expression of interest for Mini Globe 2032.... Hi...Yes the Mini Globe Race will be held every four years, Globe Transat 2021, 2023....championship 2022,2024...... Maybe a Japan- San Francisco in 2025...and local groups may organise local races. .... Good luck ! |
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Post by Daniel on Sept 15, 2020 17:19:20 GMT
For the Mini Globe Race, racers will report position to race control via satellite. Will positions be on a public website for those following the race from home? And will positions be sent via satellite txt message or GRIB file to racers? Makes for more interesting tactical decision making knowing where the other racers are, but not knowing would be a different type of race sailing on ones own all the way.
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2020 21:01:24 GMT
There will be auto trackers on boats on the MGR website with full weather overlay etc etc the works same as GGR....bit far out to decide as not sure of budgets for the running of the Race etc BUT?? assume NOT sent to entrants who can chat on HF or VHF radio if they like...Probably NO incoming comms to entrants only outgoing and weather grib files allowed...except for weekly race control chat recorded and put onto web site sound cloud and daily short text from each entrant?? ....it will be a 15month race by the look...hope to have NOR up in NOV. |
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Post by Daniel on Sept 15, 2020 22:54:47 GMT
With the ethos of keeping it low cost, fun competitive racing, it could be worth giving fleet position updates some thought. Most entrants likely to have Inreach (or similar) with two-way text messaging. A low cost/effort way could be to send a periodic (daily, every 3 days, weekly, various times depending on the leg length and when organizers get a chance to send a message) text message with a lat/long for each hull number. Someone would be able to write a simple script to take positions from the live tracker and automate converting to a txt message. Might need to find a coding volunteer to look into it... got a few years to work out the details. Specifying a particular device could make automated messaging simpler. Or could stipulate that fleet position updates would only be sent to a particular device type, and entrants could use it or not. So...good luck!
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Post by Daniel on Sept 16, 2020 3:38:11 GMT
Not to labor the point, but as a future MGR hopeful, I'm interested. It seems to me the time of satellite communication has arrived, text messaging is cheap and getting cheaper. Why not allow entrants to communicate with each other by satellite, the way they can by vhf/hf? Entrants will be required to have satellite messaging anyway, the cost of more messaging is minimal, do nobody would be disadvantaged.
Fleet position info for entrants is a part of at least the bigger ocean races. To me, it would make the racing much more fun. Help to keep the motivation over the 15 months!
With inter-vessel satellite messaging, entrants could organize themselves to share position info if they wanted. (Though if race organizers shared the position info they already had it would be a much smaller total number of txt messages. Understanding of course that it is an administrative burden, and part of keeping the race affordale is keeping administrative costs down).
Another option could be to keep race organizer to racer satellite messaging as an option in the notice of race, and keep the door open to develop fleet position sharing in the next few years, particularly if there's an interest in automating the messaging. If automation doesn't come about and manual messaging is too much of a burden, no harm done.
Anyway, just my 2 cents. By the time i'm ready to MGR, LEO satellite coverage will have exploded (maybe by 2024) and race rules may evolve. So over to you Don, and anyone intending to race 2024, if this is a conversation anyone else is interested in.
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Post by Admin on Sept 16, 2020 21:24:06 GMT
Hi Daniel Thanks for the comments....always good to hear even if totally opposite with what is proposed, as nothing is ever set in stone and things do , can and may change....but for now there is a little principle for the solo sailing around the solitude and simplicity of it all...and even the ClasseMini 650 only allow VHF comms, radio for GGR. Once Space X get all their satellites up in the next few years, you will be able to Skype with your iPhone anywhere on the Globe...BUT..is that something you would want to do??...not in one of our events ...and racing in the MGR will be a race of attrition and getting to the end....quite exciting!! ...all the best... |
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Post by Daniel on Sept 17, 2020 2:27:09 GMT
Can't imagine anything worse than getting facetimed in the middle of a sail change!!!  But I was imagining something more like: 3006.1:5009N00504W.2:4630N00147W.6:6009N02457E.8:4630N00147W.37:5142N00502W.68:5208N00424E.94:4322N00823W.102:5009N00504W.118:4630N00147W.156:6009N02457E.. That would be an actual length Inreach text message giving Lat/Long in Deg/Min for Date:30 June, Hull numbers 1,2,6,8,37,68,94,102,118,156. So, could provide the whole fleet locations in 3 text messages. On the cheapest inreach subscriptions, that would cost entrants $1.50 for each fleet update, so maybe weekly during legs? I scraped the first few of those from the GGR livetracker. Anyway, I'm excited to see developments and feed the dreams-->plans Can't wait to see seatrials of Trekka! all the best! |
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Post by Guest on Oct 19, 2020 21:47:08 GMT
The first stage of the Mini Globe Race is to qualify for entry by building to completed hull stage (hull laminated and flipped), and 1000 ocean sailing miles (as listed on the 5.80 events web page. Entry requirements may change with publication of NOR. Don in the forums mentioned completed decks and keel built as an entry requirement.) With entries limited to 30, and additional entry criteria likely after the first 20 entries, the race is on. To make it easy to see current standings, I've made an Unofficial Construction Leaderboard here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DMW3jd4XtV3NWXTjK4c2vc9iSc0YHGLtFgJhuS4K_h4/edit?usp=sharingSome Caveats: Not everyone building may intend to enter MGR. Not everyone building has a registered builder's blog for some reason (I'm looking at you Jeff Hargenrader, and Mini La Pagode (Hull 33). I'm not tracking the ocean sailing miles entry requirement, as some people have publicised this, but others may not. If new entry requirements are published, I will add them. Updates will be made periodically, when I feel like it. |
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Post by jimschofield on Oct 20, 2020 20:03:39 GMT
Hi Guest,
You can add an X into my Frames column, as I have now finished all frames and blog update on the way !
Go 580 ....
Jim
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Post by peterbrumby on Oct 21, 2020 8:36:13 GMT
Stop the press.....take a photo of that!! The highest I will ever be!! Lol
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Post by Daniel on Oct 21, 2020 15:16:06 GMT
Hi Don,
On the latest update you discussed possible entry selections for entrants 21-30. You mentioned some possibilities under consideration, including participation in ClassGlobe5.80 events, ocean miles in the entered 5.80.
Depending on the objectives of the class, I think there may be some other selection criteria worth considering:
A truly International class:
Selection criteria of participation in ClassGlobe5.80 events would be preferential towards entrants based in Europe, as all the pre-2024 events listed so far a based in Europe. Other events may arise, likely through National Associations, but three active boats in a country is a significant hurdle for smaller countries to form an association and hold events in time to aid qualification for MGR selection.
My suggestion is to prioritise entrants from countries that are not already represented in entrants 1-20. The goal would be to form a more international fleet, with a larger number of countries represented.
Divisions:
Selection priority for under-represented divisions would increase the competitiveness in each division, and increase diversity of entrants. I'm not sure what divisions there will be. You have mentioned seniors (I suspect that may not be under-represented...) Is there a Juniors division for Under 20 or Under 21 (what a fantastic gap year!)? Is there a women's division? I would think that 3 entrants in a division would be minimum number for a competitive division, so maybe prioritize entrants in a division up to a total of 3 entrants?
Diversity:
If there are no separate women's divisions, and/or filling divisions is not a priority for selection, how about giving priority to women entrants, given that women are significantly under-represented in the sport generally, and also in this class (it looks like maybe 4? women among the 116+ members of the Facebook Builders group). I think diversity is a good objective for the class, and representation is the way to build greater participation.
Ocean Miles:
The objective of this selection criteria seems clear, to select prepared and committed participants. Given that the MGR is a massive undertaking in itself, I wonder if this selection criteria may disadvantage those of lesser means. For example, racking up sea miles to qualify means time away from working, or favors work arrangements with the flexibility to allow significant breaks away.
Interested to hear your thoughts.
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..and YES Ofcourse it was planned....hahaha err?
? THANKS!!!! 
