|
|
Post by Daniel on Jan 13, 2021 3:12:05 GMT
There has been some discussion in a couple of other threads, but wanted to pull them together in one place. The class design presents some issues for complying with the New Zealand Cat 1 Regs. A common approach to interpretation of the Regs, or providing suitable alternatives to the Regs may help streamline certification.
Issues noted so far:
Anchor Rode length. Rule 17.29 specifies minimum chain/rope lengths which may be excessive for this size yacht.
Gas storage requirements. Rule 16.08, 16.19. Venting lockers required. best solution for small butane canisters is likely a pulpit mounted tube or bag.
Toilet. Rule 16.02 applies to Cat 1 "Toilet, securely installed." Compared to Rule 16.2 for Cat3: "Toilet, securely installed or fitted bucket." Would rather have a bucket arrangement, so would that be allowable given the yacht size?
Sink: Rule 16.10 galley facilities including sink. Does this size yacht really need a sink?
Headroom: Rule 16.06 minimum useful headroom 1.37m over specified area (1m of centerline and 0.18m2). Would the design meet this with/without observation dome?
SSB/Satellite voice comms: Rule 18.1 requires SSB w/100W transmit power or Satellite voice comms. Seems excessive for a boat this size. Satellite text capability seems adequate and appropriate to the size.
Lifelines/stanchions/toe rail. Rules 17.17-17.27. There could be an issue with the stanchion placement and height, depending on how the inspector interprets "working deck." If the working deck is considered to be the sheer strake line, then there would be no problem with stanchion placement and height. If the working deck is considered to be the cabin roof, then there could be a problem with location outboard of working deck and height above working deck. Also, whether the handrail arrangement similar to #1 or #26 would meet the toe rail requirement.
|
|
|
|
Post by Daniel on Jan 13, 2021 6:22:36 GMT
Rule 14.18 Must carry 4 strong buckets (9L min). Not enough space for that. 1-2 buckets ?
Rule 15.15 Storm sails. Requires Trysail, storm jib with various requirements. And heavy weather Jib max 70% of fore triangle. Once one design sails are released, check that sail selections comply. Mainsail reefing reducing luff 50%.
Rule 16.17 "No heavy objects
including ballast and chain should sit
directly on the planking or hull skin" May require interior sole inside lockers for anchor, chain, battery storage.
Rule 17.01 "Fire extinguishers at least 3". Too many for vessel size. One would be adequate.
Rules section 20 pertaining to engine and fuel do not address electric propulsion.
Construction standards, Appendix 7(a):
A monohull yacht of less than 24m in hull length (measured
in accordance with ISO 8666) with the earliest of Age or Series
date on or after 1 January 2010 built for racing to Category 0, 1,
& 2 shall have:
• been designed, built and maintained in accordance with the
requirements of ISO 12215 Category A or as from time to
time specified by World Sailing.
• onboard a of building plan review from a
body recognised by World Sailing.
• onboard a declaration signed and dated by the builder
to confirm the yacht is built in accordance with the plans
reviewed by the Notified Body.
|
|
|
|
Post by Daniel on Jan 16, 2021 3:02:43 GMT
Construction standards, Appendix 7(a): A monohull yacht of less than 24m in hull length (measured in accordance with ISO 8666) with the earliest of Age or Series date on or after 1 January 2010 built for racing to Category 0, 1, & 2 shall have: • been designed, built and maintained in accordance with the requirements of ISO 12215 Category A or as from time to time specified by World Sailing. • onboard a certificate of building plan review from a body recognised by World Sailing. • onboard a declaration signed and dated by the builder to confirm the yacht is built in accordance with the plans reviewed by the Notified Body. One of the above mentioned bodies recognized by World Sailing provided a price quote of: "The plan review costs are 3200€ for this boat inclusive the World Sailing fee for a Series Production Certificate" My read of the YNZ Safety Regulations, i.e. "5.03...All new yachts built to race after 1st January 2010 will now have to satisfy SR Appendix 7." and "5.05 ...All yachts intending to enter the offshore races will have to comply with SR Appendix 7... suggests that a 5.80 will not be cleared to depart New Zealand to race without the Certificate of Plan Review. This would affect New Zealand 5.80 entries in the Solo Tasman Challenge and any future 5.80 races intended to depart New Zealand. I'm not sure if the Certificate of Plan Review would be required by any other Yachting organizations, or if lack of one would be limiting anywhere else. www.yachtingnz.org.nz/sites/default/files/2018-10/YNZ%20Safety%20Regulations%20of%20Sailing%2017-20%20%28Final%29%20%28small%29.pdf |
|
|
|
Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2021 8:50:12 GMT
There are alternates to all these regs. which you need to put to them with the strong case and supporting evidence in support of those alternates. The NZ govt. will not stop a 5.80 from making an international voyage, because it can be proven that they are seaworthy...there are plenty of examples to use as case histories of expeditions leaving NZ for the Pacific in all types of small boats...so best to make your case in a detailed brief with all the facts addressing each and every one numbered...then if they say NO..they must give a reason for NO in each case and they will if you ask then why...they probably will say no for the first submission, but the goal posts will not change...so then with your defect list you go back with more reasoning on each issue...you will slowly tick all the boxes...they do this as do all govt. on regulations as it is up to you to prove the alternates and be aware of them and the risk mitigation required..then they have their answers if something goes wrong and they cannot be arbitrary. The issues of an Event organiser are completely different...it is up to them to decide if they want the 5.80 in their event or NOT? and again it is up to you to make them understand why they should...keep at it and you may surprise yourself at what the final outcome is...expect the NO..and then address the issues....don't give up and good luck  |
|
|
|
Post by Daniel on Jan 16, 2021 15:22:40 GMT
Hi Don, thanks! All these are resolveable! My (limited) experience of the yacht inspectors is they take a practical approach, and the regs are not written with small yachts in mind. A while before these need to be solved, but some may want to get a headstart!
goal here was just to collect solutions and share experiences.
Not sure if theres any flexabilty on the World Sailing Plan Review Certification, but that only applies to people departing to race, which is not a lot. I would think the Tasman Solo Challenge would be a likely goal though, so might need to solve the issue for that. Solution seems simple for that, just costs money!
|
|
|
|
Post by Admin on Jan 17, 2021 10:56:49 GMT
Hi..yes all good knowledge and planning to look at and the event organiser is part of that. While I like world sailing in many ways it is interesting to note that one of the biggest sailing organisations for Ocean Racing in the UK is seriously thinking of dropping an association with world sailing as they do not do much for ocean racing.( plenty for Olympic and off the beach etc) Certainly all our McIntyre Adventure events have nothing to do with " sail racing rules" ( we use col regs only) and therefore not associated with World Sailing. WE develop our own safety standards based on worlds best practice for the specific challenge and type of boat for each event. We do not cut corners but WS rules and regs are not designed for any of our races...our specs are so high that other clubs are now starting to understand that and they can also meet tradition club racing standards....so all part of the fun and good luck...and thanks |
|
