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Post by dutchsailor on May 19, 2020 18:45:52 GMT
Hi there i am using the materials list on the website to get an estimate on how much all the materials add up too, does anyone know the sizes for the oak parts and of sawn timber (pine, larch) parts so i can ask the local wood supplier for an estimate. Other question is how many screws (4x30 and 5x50) are there in a Kilo, i can not order stainless screws per kilo have to order them multiples of 100 or 500.
Thank you
Attachments:Material list 580.xlsx (9.65 KB)
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2020 0:55:07 GMT
 The attached list is the latest from the plans. Attachments:
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Post by captdan on May 20, 2020 13:58:51 GMT
Hey dutchsailor,
This is what I have used for estimates. The pine numbers will give you plenty for wastage and extras you might need. The screws might be a bit short but time will tell. The White Oak are the finished dimensions so it depends on what is available in your region in terms of thicknesses.
4x30 screws - 2500
5 x 50 screws - 1000
Pine - 130 board feet
White Oak - 60mm x 70mm x 1100mm long +or - x 5 pieces
Plywood - as per spec on website or B & B Yachts Kit video
I hope that sheds some light on your question.
Captdan
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Post by dutchsailor on May 20, 2020 14:27:47 GMT
Captdan, thank you just what I was looking for
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Post by aaronnz on May 24, 2020 0:06:55 GMT
Hey dutchsailor, This is what I have used for estimates. The pine numbers will give you plenty for wastage and extras you might need. The screws might be a bit short but time will tell. The White Oak are the finished dimensions so it depends on what is available in your region in terms of thicknesses. 4x30 screws - 2500 5 x 50 screws - 1000 Pine - 130 board feet White Oak - 60mm x 70mm x 1100mm long +or - x 5 pieces Plywood - as per spec on website or B & B Yachts Kit video I hope that sheds some light on your question. Captdan down in little ole NZ we measure wood screws by gauge... not too sure what that is from.... so 30mm and 50mm are fine but is 4 equivalent to 8g and 5 = 10g.... anyone know??? |
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Post by captdan on May 24, 2020 1:00:32 GMT
My assumption was that the "4" and the "5" was the diameter.
So, that equates to a #8 and # 10 screw here in North America. If any one has a different idea please let me know .....
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bart
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Post by bart on May 24, 2020 13:21:36 GMT
Dutchsailor, can you keep me posted of your calculation / estimation? I might be interested to build one myself as well.
Where do you live / plan to build your boat? I live in Houten, close to Utrecht (Holland).
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martellmarine
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Post by martellmarine on May 24, 2020 18:02:05 GMT
My assumption was that the "4" and the "5" was the diameter. So, that equates to a #8 and # 10 screw here in North America. If any one has a different idea please let me know ..... It is my understanding that '4' and '5' refer to gauge. ie #4 & #5 on this chart. |
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Post by captdan on May 25, 2020 2:51:01 GMT
My assumption was that the "4" and the "5" was the diameter. So, that equates to a #8 and # 10 screw here in North America. If any one has a different idea please let me know ..... It is my understanding that '4' and '5' refer to gauge. ie #4 & #5 on this chart.Hmmm, that is a really small screw to pull shape into 9 or 10mm plywood for the bow or deck camber etc. Not sure .... |
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2020 3:31:31 GMT
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Post by dutchsailor on May 25, 2020 17:19:16 GMT
Don the FAQ at the website mentions; Some could get sailing for around Euro$6000.
I did some calculations but just building the hull will be 6000 euro, I don’t know the prices of the rig, sails, chain plates and safety equipment but my guess is that minimum of 10000 euro is needed.
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Post by ragnar on May 25, 2020 18:05:30 GMT
I did some calculations but just building the hull will be 6000 euro 6000€ doing everything by your self...without buying a cnc kit...i supose. Right??? |
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Post by dutchsailor on May 25, 2020 18:12:55 GMT
Ragnar, yes only materials for the hull doing everything self no cnc kit.
With buying a cnc kit building a hull will be min 10000 euro, beware that is with our tax of 21%, some of the prices advertised are without tax.
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Post by ragnar on May 25, 2020 18:22:57 GMT
Thank you. I don't have yet the price of the cnc kit in my country...but i supose building the hull with the kit it will be more or less 10000€...perhaps more🙁
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2020 22:37:03 GMT
Don the FAQ at the website mentions; Some could get sailing for around Euro$6000. I did some calculations but just building the hull will be 6000 euro, I don’t know the prices of the rig, sails, chain plates and safety equipment but my guess is that minimum of 10000 euro is needed. Hi Yes it will be more than that...will change the answers today...we changed it on FB to about Euro$8-10,000....but that is doing eveything yourself!!!! ...especially for micro cuising when you do not have to meet 5.80 CLASS requirements...then it is up to you, tailer, racing sails, safety gear, electronics...etc...doing a Globe 5.80 transocean event could run to  $25-30,000. I have a budget of about Euro$10,000 just in Labour as I am too busy to build it myself. You can develope your own list and make you own budgets before you decide to start as it vaies from country to country..no shotcuts...eveything is there...so good luck  when you are paying Euro$25,000 for a 3.2mtr solo off the beach foiling sit on day boat, the 5.80 is great value . |
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$25-30,000. I have a budget of about Euro$10,000 just in Labour as I am too busy to build it myself. You can develope your own list and make you own budgets before you decide to start as it vaies from country to country..no shotcuts...eveything is there...so good luck