HOW MUCH to build a 5.80? answers from builders only!!

[Admin]

IMPORTANT!!!! This thread is ONLY for comment/reply by active 5.80 builders listed in the MORE section of the 5.80 Website go to BUILDERS BLOGS..as only YOU know how much your spending. we do NOT want comments or opinions of non builders here...THANKS

The Biggest question I am asked is HOW MUCH TO BUILD a 5.80? well the answer is how long is a piece of string? There was a lot of guesswork in the beginning and standards have been very high and we realised as we moved forward we all want VERY GOOD boats so cost went up. Now we have 50 builders who can finally give their experience. I will list my opinion below and what is included in each category ...then below that there is a blank list of headings. To reply copy the blank list of headings then put your opinion of what your costs are as an actual builder.

Finally remember you do not need Euro$30,000 to start building. you need enough for plans, plywood, structural timber, glass and epoxy, tools and find a space to build..then get started. you will be surprised how satisfying it is to see your completed hull and strangely most will find the money to complete...I always have even for the BOC challenge in 1990...all my boats I just start and if you believe in a dream it WILL Happen. Good luck

All prices here include VAT and are in Euro. Different countries will have different costs. This is PLAN Building NOT KIT purchase. All includes delivery and any import tax duty.This is my opinion of an AMPLE BUDGET and you can probably drop it 15% if you shop well and think smart. If you are not building to Class Certification and some are, build your own mast, SS rails, keel, simple electrical and do everything your self, use salvage timber for JIG, buy good used hatches and equipment, buy used trailer and modify etc, you could be sailing for Euro$25,000 easily...so good luck! Hope to see you sailing soon!

5.80 Plans and future registrations.........$800
Marine PLYWOOD. (Italian is best value) ....$2500-3500
Structural timber/stringers etc.............$1200-1500
Epoxy and Glass ( depends on Ply type/thickness..$2000
Paints/glues/screws.........................$1500
Selden Mast, running, standing rigging and Blue Shark deck gear. $5500
Other Deck gear hatches, winches, clutches..$2000
Sails.......................................$4500
Electrical, batteries, wire, lights.........$2500
Plumbing, bilge pumps, hoses etc............$1800
5.80 SS pack................................$1200
Keel fin Prof. manufacture make own bulb....$2000
SS rails/sprit make with contact............$2500
Electronics, Echo, VHF, GPS/Chart plotter...$1500
Contingency??...............................$1000
Trailer.....................................$2500
TOTAL.......$35,000
NOT Included, Safety gear or outboard..

Copy and paste this list for your reply and thanks! everyone is interested... Don

PLYWOOD......................................
STRUCTURAL TIMBER............................
EPOXY GLASS..................................
MAST, RUNNING, STANDING RIGG AND DECK GEAR...
HATCHES, BOLLARDS,CLUTCHES.WINCHES...........
SAILS........................................
ELECTRICLE...................................
PLUMBING.....................................
5.80 STAINLESS PACK..........................
KEEL AND BULB................................
SS RAILS AND BOWSPRIT........................
ELECTRONICS..................................
CONTINGENCY..................................
TRAILER......................................

[danturner]

Im in Australia and got a long way to go but have paid for the majority of the packages now so have a fairly decent indication of cost. I'm anticipating Total for my build ready for ocean racing is going to be around $55,000 - $60,000 AUD. CNC build

[Joe - Sail No 46]

Don

I've not worked out the breakdown yet, but the total spend I could have done it in is £25k Sterling. I have chosen to spend more on the B&G chart plotter and wind instrument etc for club racing here, plus toilet and new hatches I've used. Plus I've paid rent to build it in a boat yard and use their tools which has added a fair bit. It is going to be £35k Sterling by the end.

The building of the boat for me has been easily as much fun as the sailing will be. It's getting very close to completion now and although I want to sail it very much I will miss going to the yard to build it !

Cheers

Joe

[Gary]

Severin Hummer (98) reported a little over 50,000 euro to be ready for the Transat start.

[captdan]

Hello all,
I have finalized my costs for my 5.80, Little Bea.
All numbers below are in Canadian Dollars CDN.
Everything is built to Class standards ( pending sending the documents to Don ) and I have done the vast majority of the work myself with the exception of some welding and machining work.
I don't have my costs itemized like Don laid out but they show all items purchased. I found some slightly used items and some used items that were still new in the box. If you have time to look around there are some deals out there.
I couldnt get the Selden mast here in time for me to sail this past summer so I found a used mast off of a Mirage 24 with the same section size as the Selden. I modified it from a masthead rig to a fractional rig and it performed very well for the 7 weeks I had the boat in the water.
My total is $32,244.00 CDN
Excluding Selden mast, sails, electronics and outboard

Expenses

ClassGlobe 5.80 Plans 470

Pine for Frames 200

Meranti Marine plywood BS1088 9mm 13 sheets 1245

Meranti Marine plywood BS 1088 9mm 12 sheets 1482

Meranti Marine plywood BS 1088 6mm 1 sheet 98

White Oak 275

Douglas Fir ( rudder and skegs ) 225

Epoxy, microballons, hardener and supplies 4480

Fiberglass 1186

Interlux primer, flattening agent and polyurethane 1400

Fiberglass keel tubes ( .75” OD x .5” ID ) 32

Stainless steel screws #8 x 1.25 ( 2500 ) and #10 x 2 ( 1000 ) 271

Small tools and Consumables 2272

Keel plate ⅝” thick 44W profile cut and base plate 425

Labour for welding keel and stainless 1500

Sandblast and epoxy primer keel 300

Lead for keel 300

Sailboat trailer ( includes modifications to suit the 580) 2285

Stainless steel parts from McIntyre Adventures 1610

Misc structural steel for turning jig etc 200

Rigging / rentals for turning boat upright 677

Machine shop services 1233

Compass, plumbing fittings, Dorade vent, 50L water tank, Faucet 219

Stainless fasteners 665

Hatches - Lewmar and Bomar 1300

Stainless steel tubing and round bar for deck handrails, pushpit, pulpit etc.  444

Nmea 2000 system 276

Bilge pump switch, usb plugs, terminal blocks, Lithium iron Phosphate 20AH battery, wiring connectors and interior lighting 475

Bilge switch, bilge pump, thru hulls, 2 Whale emergency pumps, quick grip clamps, 437

Cockpit access hatches, plumbing items, anchor light, cockpit cushions, first aid kit, air horn 607

Bilge strainers, Whale foot pump, circuit breaker panel 240

Seacock, battery cable, 14-2 marine wire 194

Softsand deck anti-skid rubber pellets 130

Powder coating bowsprit 113
VHF cable, VHF fittings, battery cable lugs 186

Deck triple clutch 292

Barometer, docklines, Galv anchor chain, fenders, lifeline hardware 609

Running rigging, deck cleats, and misc cordage 900

Fire extinguisher, flares, flag 147

Seadek EVA foam 301

Blueshark kit from McIntyre Adventures 1775

Mast - used mast, modified to match the 580 Selden spec 769

Mast - Selden 2749 ( not included in the total above )
Mast - shipping from France TBD

Sails - TBD

[Admin]

HOW MUCH?? to build a 5.80?? This was a reply to a comment in a recent post but decided to make it a post....so more can read it.
How much? Think about this carefully....YES you can spend money easy on a project like this...but you do not have to...you can do it ALL yourself and that takes time...most want to go fast..so pay everyone to do many things. You can even build your own mast VERY CHEAP! all the plans are supplied for every fitting on the mast and boom. Tie off all halyards and not buy snap shackles and you only need simple deck gear , but people want to race, so buy jambers and clutches and fancy stuff. Buy a Plastimo hand bearing compass with extra bracket and use it for your main steering compass. You need no mainsheet traveller, no jib sheet traveller....build your own SS rails, build the Hull and deck from plans not a CNC kit...cast your own lead bulb with salvage lead...shop hard for your hatches and use Lexan windows , get your wife or girlfriend to make the upholstery. You can use emergency Nav. lights and headlamps inside for the electrical system and just use a lead line for depth, a battery clock. One good fitted bilge pump and a portable bucket as backup and toilet. Shop for some basic local sails, paint your boat with a roller, build your own trailer modifications on a second hand trailer and you can be sailing for around $25,000....maybe even less if you make your own SS rudder and chain plate fittings if you do not want 5.80 Class Certification and there is a group doing just that...some may even make their own Gennakers just like the SETKA guys are doing....so you are investing in your own time. YOU DO NOT need $1000"s in tools...go borrow some and your friends will be happy to share..they may even give you a hand some days on the job. SO HOW MUCH does it all cost...it all comes down to what you want out of your project. The only things you MUST buy for 5.80 Class Certification are certified Marine ply, a professional to make the keel fin, Class SS rudder and chain plate fittings, and for 5.80 Class racing-Quantum one design sails and that is it....for Racing Transocean events you need to look at the safety gear and training course requirements and entry fees, but then it all comes down to you are paying for what you want. That is the big issue. You will go over $50,000 for the mini Globe Race. No one is making money on these boats...Jane and I make $50 euro for the privilege of selling you a set of plans..the rest goes to Janusz. As organiser we spend approx $5000 euro on every entrant in the #G580T to run the Race with Volunteers (No one is paid) and the entry fee is only E$750 🙂 ..( going up in 2023!). So the 5.80 is not for everyone, but the cost is controlled by the builder ...the FUN comes FREE!! 🙂 Hope to see you all joining the 5.80 family...the VIBE here in Lagos is cool and the passion and comradery is very real, and fun, something money cannot buy. Finally compared to a second hand Mirror or Heron dingy for $300 or a new Optimist for $4500 in which you can make some awesome adventures...the 5.80 is extremely expensive...but compared to doing the Golden Globe Race.....well??$%^%$#!!! it is cheap...so chose your destiny well and make simple decisions in life...the choices are all yours...🙂..life is for living.. ....and JIM whi has entered the Globe 5.80 Transat with all the requires safety gear, liferaft survival suit etc etc has just topped out at Euro$30,000 as he has done everything himslef from plans so everything is posible...TREKKA is at about $60,000 for the same ready to go ...