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Post by tysonkidder on Apr 10, 2021 1:57:40 GMT
Hey folks! Just purchased plans and it'll take me a minute to get rolling, but the idea of this whole thing is freaking awesome and I can't wait to get started. Who's building in the US? Materials are definitely different here. I'm a carpenter & builder and have experience with a slew of other trades. But, for shame, I'm utterly a noob to this new adventure. Especially when I have to forcibly wrench my mind away from the Imperial system after so many years! (and take the Rosetta stone Polish course  ) Anyway, to the point- it'd be fantastic to have advice on good suppliers and the materials/adhesives etc. sourced close to home that won't either:
disqualify the build or work as well as the Euro spec'd stuff. I'd hate to be stalled unnecessarily with a half built boat and a wife screaming about it being in the front yard. In the meantime, watching Sea Gypsies on Netflix won't do it. I've got like 40 books to read on boat building and sailing. I'm in Coburg, Oregon by the way, in case there are any West coasters nearby. Thanks guys! Tyson |
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Post by jaysen on Apr 10, 2021 14:20:09 GMT
Look at boatbuildercentral.com for ply/glass/resin. you will almost certainly want to do the thinner ply option with the second layer of glass. The guys ay BBC were helping me get my stuff started before I had to postpone my build indefinitely. They ship all over the country/world and are typically cheaper (post ship) than most local suppliers. Don and crew had ok my use of their products but you should check again.
For framing material, look into the cnc kit for a quick start or find a local sawmill. If you go with the local sawmill make sure you specify minimum lengths or you may get a bunch of sticks that require a lot of splicing. I found that the local sawmill was the cheaper opinion with higher quality wood (not that the CNC kit is bad but I was able to choose my own wood). Out west should be able to get killer prices on timber.
As to the hardware... defender, and other warehouses are best for research. Amazon and direct from manufacturers tend to be cheaper though. Keep in mind that at some point you will have class compliance to consider. I found it dang near impossible to buy "the same stuff" in the US when I was acquiring parts. when I resume my build I will likely buy the "full kit" from the official catalog just to be 100% certain I won't run foul of any class rules.
Good luck.
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Post by tysonkidder on Apr 10, 2021 17:57:20 GMT
Thanks Jaysen, sorry to hear about your postponement. I appreciate the pointers very much. Timber should be cheaper here, but we're getting hosed like everyone else on pricing, despite it being cut and milled right down the road. It's more than doubled in the last 2-3 years. Ticks me off. Wondering if I'd be allowed to saw up the mountain of a Maple tree I felled at my place.
Buying the kit would be so convenient, but I'm saving every penny I can for the hardware and anything I'm not equipped to fabricate (and I'm even selling my motorcycle for that stuff!)
Good luck to you too!
Tyson
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Post by jimschofield on Apr 10, 2021 23:57:51 GMT
Welcome Tyson, the kit will get you started quicker but building from plans could let you tweak things slightly, in non structural parts. Read over everyones blogs and soak up all the info you can before you cut a single piece of ply. Having a picture in your head of what you're doing next is key, I'm still trying to work out what I'm doing tomorrow !
The metric system is simplicity itself, just your ten fingers over and over, but do you have to sell your motorcycle ? I've an old BMW and if it comes to it, I will sell but that's real commitment...
As for epoxy, I can't recommend West System enough, it's made for boats.
Jim
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Post by tysonkidder on Apr 12, 2021 2:02:45 GMT
Thanks Jim! There's a lot of great stuff in the blogs for sure. A lot of folks (like yourself) are doing some amazing work. Fortunately I've got plenty of time to get my head around it. I promised my wife I'd build our house before starting, and I submitted the plans on Friday, so there's a few months I'm going to lag behind everyone. But I'll be building that house in record time!
Haha, yeah, the motorcycle. Fortunately I planned to sell it before I bought it, got it for a steal- so it's not so much a sacrifice. The weather stinks for riding most of the year here too. I did see the West system, glad to know it's a decent product.
Thanks again for the advice, it's much appreciated.
Tyson
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Post by Admin on Apr 12, 2021 16:29:47 GMT
Hey enjoy the ride...there are some interesting people here who can give solid advice and look forward to seeing you on the water....the bigger the learning curve the greater the ADVENTURE...so all the very best  Keep the dream alive!! |
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Post by captdan on Apr 12, 2021 23:04:42 GMT
Hi Tyson,
Welcome !
I echo the points made above by others. There is a lot of information in a few different places ( Forum, Facebook pages, Website blogs etc. ) As you get going on the build, you will sort all of that out.
In terms of materials, I found that Richelieu was a life saver for me. They have a local distribution here in Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada. The Meranti plywood was substantially cheaper through them since they are a wholesaler. I noticed that there is a location that is somewhat close to you if you were building by Plans.
Enjoy your build !
RICHELIEU SEATTLE
2200 West Valley North Unit 120
Auburn
WA
98001
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Post by brucel on Apr 13, 2021 1:31:17 GMT
gday tyson, I’m north and east of you a few miles.... But hopefully in a few years we can do a race up and down the west coast. I’d like to do the R2AK in 2024 which is out your way. There is two boats getting built in California that i have seen. Both BnB CNC kits. hull113.blogspot.com/ classglobe580hull122wildfire.blogspot.com/ |
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Post by hull113 on Apr 13, 2021 20:59:57 GMT
hull79.blogspot.com is building in So Cal too.
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Post by tysonkidder on Apr 14, 2021 5:41:55 GMT
Wow, thanks guys for the info and encouragement! I like the idea of that West Coast Race. Makes me wonder if anyone is cooking up a TransPac? |
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Post by tysonkidder on Apr 14, 2021 5:52:57 GMT
I planned on getting prices today on the Okoume ply but the place closed before I got back to town. I shudder to think what I'll hear after seeing OSB at $47 per sheet. The cost of my house just went up thousands  We can use fiberglass over cardboard right? |
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Post by hull113 on Apr 14, 2021 17:17:37 GMT
I'd definitely be game for a Transpac, but probably not till after the 2024-2025 race. I guess it could happen early 2023 before the boats go in the container for the second Transat race in 2023.
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Post by wildfire on May 9, 2021 11:36:24 GMT
gday tyson, I’m north and east of you a few miles.... But hopefully in a few years we can do a race up and down the west coast. I’d like to do the R2AK in 2024 which is out your way. There is two boats getting built in California that i have seen. Both BnB CNC kits. hull113.blogspot.com/ classglobe580hull122wildfire.blogspot.com/sorry wildfire will be from scratch not cnc |
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Keep the dream alive!! 
We can use fiberglass over cardboard right?